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BrendaH2 (Georgia)
Posts: 3
Posted:
A real estate agent currently leases her home, in our neighborhood, to another family. She is delinquent in paying her HOA fees. We have sent numerous notices to the homeowner and have not had any results. She changed tenants last year and we are not privy to the names of the new tenants. We have requested this information from her.

Is she legally obligated to provide the names of the new tenants?
If she fails to pay the HOA fees, can we bill them?
As per our bylaws, we would like to send a notice to the family informing them that they are not allowed to utilize the pool until all dues are current. Can we legally do this to the tenants?

Thanks!
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Is she legally obligated to provide the names of the new tenants?

No, unless you have rental rules that requires this.

If she fails to pay the HOA fees, can we bill them?

No, unless you have rental rules or state law that allows this.

As per our bylaws, we would like to send a notice to the family informing them that they are not allowed to utilize the pool until all dues are current. Can we legally do this to the tenants?

No, unless you have rental rules or state law that allows this.

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SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
You need to come down on the person responsible for the dues: The Owner.

PS: Does your HOA have ANY kind of policy about rentals?
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Brenda:

Our property's documents require owners to provide contact information for whoever is living in their unit. Owners or tenants. Plus a copy of their current lease, vehicle information, emergency contact information, etc. I would read through your documents to check.

In NY the tenant CAN be served with an order they pay their rent directly to the association when and if the owner fails to reamin current. I would guess your property's attorney might inform you whether this is possible in your neck of the woods.

And again on our property if the owner is not current they can and do forfeit the use of the property's pool. We simply do not issue that owner or tenant a pool pass. Why should they or the tenant be allowed to use the services covered by the payment of dues when they don't pay dues. Again, an attorney would be able to advise you if this is allowed under your state and local laws.

Do you have a set of rules and regulations??? A fine schedule??? Late fees??
When does your property begin collections??????

Have you placed a lien for unpaid dues?????
BrendaH2 (Georgia)
Posts: 3
Posted:
No. Our covenants do not address rentals.
BrendaH2 (Georgia)
Posts: 3
Posted:
We do have a set of rules and regulations. We do address interest on late payments and collection of fees incurred from recording the lien. We have already recorded liens on the property for unpaid dues and interest. We are attempting to collect, though not through an agency.

I like your policy regarding providing copy of the lease, vehichle information, etc. We do not have any thing regarding rentals. Unfortunately, our builder allowed this individual to rent before he went bankrupt. He stole every bit of the funds from our HOA and the homeowners started getting liens on their properties for debts that he didn't pay. We were only 33% built out when the community collected funds to acquire an attorney and take control of the HOA. The bylaws were established by the builder. We are in the learn as you go stage right now.

I will take your advice to speak with our attorney regarding our state laws on if we can serve an order to have the tenant pay rent to our association. I am also going to see if the rest of the board members and the homeowners will assist in amending our bylaws to include some of the items you mentioned (provided our state laws allow it).

Thank you for your assistance!
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Renters are NOT legally obligated to pay HOA dues. It is the owner's responsibility. That is why the HOA is allowed to place Liens or foreclose against the OWNER. A lien prevents them from selling the property until paid up. A foreclosure takes away the property altogether.

A HOA does NOT need to know the name of the renters unless it is in the rules of the HOA to provide this information. A certified letter to the residence at the address should help provide proof of contact. Plus if you do lien/foreclose the notice is usually published in the newspaper as a "Public Notice".

A lawsuit is a waste of time as the owner can simply sell the property and not pay any judgements. A lien on the other hand prevents them from selling the property and moving until they paid what is owed. They can rent the property indefinetely but they can never sell.

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JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Actually Melissa if Brenda lived in Florida the rentor can pay the HOA fees and deduct from the rent due to the Owner. It would maybe be nice if more states consider this option in their legislative sessions.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
That is nice the law allows the renter to pay the HOA dues and deduct from the rent. Does this mean this is written in the rental agreement? This still doesn't protect the owner from being liened or foreclosed on if the renter refuses to pay the owed dues. That is because the renter can't be liened for not paying can they?


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EdC5 (Florida)
Posts: 117
Posted:
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/11/2011 9:19 AM
That is nice the law allows the renter to pay the HOA dues and deduct from the rent. Does this mean this is written in the rental agreement? This still doesn't protect the owner from being liened or foreclosed on if the renter refuses to pay the owed dues. That is because the renter can't be liened for not paying can they?


Actually the Fl statute allows the HOA to evict the renter if the renter does not pay the HOA after notice that rent must be paid to the HOA because the owner is delinquent.

Edward J Cooke, CMCA, LCAM

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