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ValerieS2 (Michigan)
Posts: 244
Posted:
We purchased a foreclosed home in July. At the closing table the title clerk produced a document for us to sign acknowledging there was an HOA. It was the first we heard of it. The had no bylaws or master deed for us to review. At that point, closing on the last day possible, we were stuck signing. Moved in, neighbors said the HOA was inactive but now it will be resurrected in a few months. The developer is turning it over to the homeowners as he is bankrupt and cannot afford insurance/bonds or the final cap on the roads.

I have emails from the selling agent stating there is no HOA. Do we have any recourse?

I attached a letter that was stuffed in our mailbox yesterday. Any guidance would be GREATLY appreciated!
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
I'd gather up your neighbors and hire a real estate lawyer versed in condo law. You are going to need it to guide you all through the process of setting up your HOA.

But don't get in a panic until you see how this all fleshes out. If the roads are not crumbling and/or unpassable, then there is time to establish a reserve fund and get a plan for their maintenance.

PS - It's not true that your home is going to be more valuable or saleable if it is not in a HOA. The person that wrote that has a specific opinion and slanted viewpoint.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
you can always try to sue the realtor for failing to disclose. not sure how much luck you will have with that, but it's possible.

How will you determine the damages for the suit?
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Doesn't sound like you did your homework before purchasing this foreclosure. If you did due diligence, you would have found out it was part of an association and asked for the proper paperwork long before the closing.

Do we have any recourse? No. You should have done better job investigating the house before you bought it.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Valerie, when you post things like the letter, you should redact personal information of others before you post them. You need a legal opinion on whether or not the agents actions would allow you to void the sale or be recompensed for it. For that you need to contact an attorney.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By ValerieS2 on 01/21/2011 1:30 PM

At that point, closing on the last day possible, we were stuck signing.

This one sentence is the problem. The reality is, you were not stuck signing.

You stated that the Realtor failed to disclose this fact and actually told you there was no HOA. The Realtor may have been mistake or flat out lying. Either way, you were told about it prior to finalizing the purchase of your home (granted at the last possible moment but you were still told).

I certainly do not agree to the process you were put through. I don't think anyone on this forum agrees with the process you endured. However, that doesn't change the facts.

You chose to continue signing the paperwork vs. stopping the process, telling them that this is the first you were told about it and will not sign until you have an opportunity to review and consider the Associations Governing documents. Some States actually have laws that allow you to back out of a deal once the Knowledge of an HOA is made known and governing documents delivered. However, those time frames are short (in VA you have 3 days to decide). However, most States do not have any such law and it is left to the normal buying process.

As someone pointed out your could, and in my opinion should, file a complaint against the Realtor and the Real Estate Company. What, if anything, that will get you financially I do not know. I am fairly certain that you will not be able to back out of the actual purchase. I am fairly certain you will still be part of the HOA in what ever form it becomes, as you did purchase the house and signed a document saying you were made aware that the property was within a community subject to an HOA.

My suggestion would be to become involved in the HOA as it is being formed.

I know that this isn't what you wanted to hear. I'm sorry about that.

I am not an attorney and I do not work within the legal profession. I am offering advise based on the information in your posting, personal experience, research and, hopefully, some common sense. I hope it helps.

Tim
ValerieS2 (Michigan)
Posts: 244
Posted:
Thanks for all the responses. I definitely agree our bad for not stopping the process. Can ANYONE please tell me how to edit myboriginal post? (I want to remove the attachment)Thank you.
RobW (California)
Posts: 279
Posted:
This is a very strange situation, and maybe I don't understand it. Either you have bought into an HOA, or you haven't. At closing, did you receive a copy of the HOA bylaws? Articles of Incorporation? Covenants and Restrictions? Rules & Regulations?

Rob
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Valerie,

Contact the monitor of this site and ask that they remove your attachment or that particular post. under help, there is a contack HOATALK. Our monitor is extremely helpful and should be able to help you.
ValerieS2 (Michigan)
Posts: 244
Posted:
Rob I received none of those. Monday when I am back at work with access to a scanner I will attach what I did sign. It says "ingress is by means of private roads maintained by the Condominium Association". And That the title policy will have the following exceptions, one being "Provisions of the By-Laws and Jurisdiction of the Condominium Association as more fully set forth in the recorded Master Deed". That is the only reference to HOA in any closing docs.

Donna I will do that - thanks for the tip.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Valerie you purchased a condominium and didn't suspect there was an HOA?

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
ValerieS2 (Michigan)
Posts: 244
Posted:
Glen it is a detached single family home (by appearances) it is listed as a site condo. No, I did not "suspect" (until closing)there was an association after being repeatedly told (in writing) that there was not. Your second statement was a little odd - did I criticize something?
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Not at all, that is simply my signature line. It appears on all of my posts.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
ValerieS2 (Michigan)
Posts: 244
Posted:
Lol - Glen I apologize!
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Valerie:

Look at your contract to purchase ... generally these will have a statement and possibly a check box stating whether the home is in an HOA and that certain documents are to be supplied within XX days before closing. Potentially, if this information was not disclosed at that time and depending on your state statutes you should possibly check with an attorney regarding contract or real estate law. However, you may also have an issue due to it was stated at closing ... while this was wrong you still signed the documents, so it will depend on the various contract laws. Many attorneys will offer a 30 minute free consultation, so it might be worth your time to check.

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