RobertH15 (Tennessee)
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The issue that prompts me to write is that the board of our small (21 units) property has been notified of and responded to a hidden water line leak. The leak damaged ceiling and wallboard of the unit downstairs.
The leak came from old, galvanized water supply lines. In this case, the supply line served only the upstairs unit. Each unit has its own cut-off valve but not a meter. There is a common meter for the entire property.
There have been leaks before on our property, and in cases of water line leak or sewer line leak where damage was done, the costs have been ultimately paid by users of those lines, units affected/damaged and by the HOA. Basically, shared payment.
We think that under our by-laws, a service line like this is defined as a Common Element and Limited Common Element. I.e., it appears to us that Limited Common Elements are a subset of Common Elements. The by-laws make it clear that the HOA is responsible for maintenance and repair of Common Elements, but best we can tell, the by-laws are silent on who exactly is responsible when Limited Common Elements fail.
My questions:
Just in general, is it the Unit Owner (or possibly two Unit owners, if a line served two units only) who is served by a water supply line responsible for maintenance of that line? I'm speaking of a water supply line that is not within the Unit space of the unit served by the line. For instance, here, the water line leak is present in the duct of the downstairs unit.
Okay, then what about the electrical wiring? What about the wires that exit a junction box and then lead to only one unit. Even when these wires are located in otherwise common areas like crawl spaces?
These same questions could apply to sewer lines. Some sewer lines serve only one unit, but then of course at some point that line joins with another line and then another until the sewage is conveyed to a main line. At what point is the HOA responsible?
From a property management standpoint, it would probably be better for the HOA to oversee all these lines that are within ducts and so forth; i.e., that are not within the Units proper. That way, the HOA can "manage" the risks of problems like an old water supply line leaking.
So, from that standpoint, water and sewer lines and electrical lines, except those within the Units, would be like rooftops and outdoor pavement, they would be managed and paid for by the HOA.
Just wondering how the costs for maintenance of water supply lines - particularly those that serve only a single unit - is handled in your HOA.
Robert
The leak came from old, galvanized water supply lines. In this case, the supply line served only the upstairs unit. Each unit has its own cut-off valve but not a meter. There is a common meter for the entire property.
There have been leaks before on our property, and in cases of water line leak or sewer line leak where damage was done, the costs have been ultimately paid by users of those lines, units affected/damaged and by the HOA. Basically, shared payment.
We think that under our by-laws, a service line like this is defined as a Common Element and Limited Common Element. I.e., it appears to us that Limited Common Elements are a subset of Common Elements. The by-laws make it clear that the HOA is responsible for maintenance and repair of Common Elements, but best we can tell, the by-laws are silent on who exactly is responsible when Limited Common Elements fail.
My questions:
Just in general, is it the Unit Owner (or possibly two Unit owners, if a line served two units only) who is served by a water supply line responsible for maintenance of that line? I'm speaking of a water supply line that is not within the Unit space of the unit served by the line. For instance, here, the water line leak is present in the duct of the downstairs unit.
Okay, then what about the electrical wiring? What about the wires that exit a junction box and then lead to only one unit. Even when these wires are located in otherwise common areas like crawl spaces?
These same questions could apply to sewer lines. Some sewer lines serve only one unit, but then of course at some point that line joins with another line and then another until the sewage is conveyed to a main line. At what point is the HOA responsible?
From a property management standpoint, it would probably be better for the HOA to oversee all these lines that are within ducts and so forth; i.e., that are not within the Units proper. That way, the HOA can "manage" the risks of problems like an old water supply line leaking.
So, from that standpoint, water and sewer lines and electrical lines, except those within the Units, would be like rooftops and outdoor pavement, they would be managed and paid for by the HOA.
Just wondering how the costs for maintenance of water supply lines - particularly those that serve only a single unit - is handled in your HOA.
Robert