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RobW (California)
Posts: 279
Posted:
I've been living in a common interest development (CID) in northern California for the past 25 years. Our association has 177 units: 156 condos in six 3-story wood frame buildings, and 21 townhouses in three blocks of 7. Each unit owns 1/177 of the land and improvements. The complex was built in the mid-seventies, and is only a 15-minute drive to downtown San Francisco, and a 10-minute drive to the Pacific ocean. I served on the Board for 5 years, was president of the Board for 3 years, and have been the chair of the Architectural Control Committee for most of the years I wasn't serving on the Board.

Here's the story:

The developer bought the land and got the development plan approved by the local town planning commission, and then began to take all of the steps required to start a CID in California. He graded the land, built the first condo building, and started an association by registering the non-profit corporation. He then had family members move into some of the units, and "elected" a Board of Directors. As work progressed, he conducted open houses, and began to sell units.

Over the course of a year or so, he continued building 5 additional condo buildings, three blocks of town houses, a visitors' parking garage with a tennis court on the roof, a second tennis court, a recreation building with a meeting room, sauna, showers, a gym, and a game room, as well as a pool building with heated pool and spa, and a second tennis court at the top of a hill. He installed an artificial creek that ran from the top of the complex down to the entrance of the complex, culminating in a spectacular waterfall - the first thing visitors saw when entering the community. And all of this was set in a pine forest, surrounded by gorgeous landscaping.

Sounds great, so far, right?

Sounded great to my wife and me, also, so we bought a condo here. But as we gradually discovered, there was trouble in Paradise.

As it turned out, the developer had cut a few corners during development. He saved money by skimping on nails and screws, by using substandard materials and labor, and by hiring an inexpensive and inexperienced architect. There was an inconvenient spring running through the complex, and rather than divert it or contain it in a culvert, he simply filled it in with a bulldozer. The architect thought the wood siding, which is called T-111 and comes in 4'x8' sheets, would look better if it were installed horizontally, rather than vertically. This siding has grooves that run in parallel, from top to bottom, through which rain that hits the walls flows to the ground. Each sheet of T-111 is connected to the next with a special connector called Z-flashing. When properly installed, the buildings behind the siding remain dry, and the Z-flashing prevents water seeping behind the siding at the joints. When installed horizontally, the waterproof integrity of the buildings becomes compromised, however, and this is a major problem that few people buying into the complex understood.

And this is my point: When you buy into an association like this, you may not know there is anything wrong. The buildings may look fabulous, and the landscaping may make it seem like the front cover of Better Homes and Gardens. Unless you walk around with someone who is an expert in construction, how would you notice the early-warning signs of construction defects?

If you move into a complex where the developer is still in charge, you are essentially taking his word for it that all is well. You may presume that the local building codes were followed, and that the local building inspectors did their jobs, and would never have signed off on the finished construction had there been defects or violations. But your assumptions may be supported not so much by evidence, but by wishful thinking.

In the early years, construction defects may not be apparent to the casual observer. Take roof flashing, for example. Roof flashing consists of inexpensive sheets of metal that are used to ensure that rainwater drips off the eaves of a sloped composition roof, and into the rain gutter. If the flashing is missing, or worse, installed backwards, not all of the rain is directed over the eaves and into the gutters. Instead, some of the water seeps underneath the last course of shingles, and doing what water does, will find low spots to run to. Often the low spots are areas where roofing staples or nails were supposed to be, such as at framing joints or overlapping tar paper underlayment, and will settle on bare wood, where it will slowly be absorbed. This may take years before any deleterious effect becomes obvious.

Every type of construction has its own water intrusion issues, regardless of the type of materials used. once water seeps into a joint or crack, it can't get back out. Eventually, the wood begins to decay, fungus begins to grow, or both. Even if there is no wood framing at all, eventually the dampness will make its way into interior framing, to the backside of drywall, and fungus will grow inside the unit.

Meanwhile, a spring that was simply filled in by bulldozer may not surface until a major storm saturates the ground. It could be years before this happens. When it does, the spring may become a swamp, or a creek that flows right across the living room floor of a condo or town house. And throughout the entire complex, siding that was installed incorrectly may be allowing rainwater to flow behind it, and into the plywood underlayment, and dry or wet rot and fungus may be growing there in every building, but will not be visible to the naked eye without destructive testing. These conditions then invite termites and other pests who like wet environments to move in.

All of a sudden, things are not looking as idyllic as they did when you moved in. "What the hell?" Where's that developer?

Where indeed?

End, Part I

Rob

JenniferM10 (Illinois)
Posts: 97
Posted:
I wish I had read something like this before I bought my condo. There are several issues that I've become aware of by attending our HOA meetings and just actually living here.

The biggest ones being that the soffets on the end units weren't done properly, and like your example, were not weather proof. When repainting the 30 year old buildings was being done, it was discovered that there was a lot of rot. I'm not in an end unit, and so didn't have to deal with the inconvenience, but it cost our HOA a lot of money to correct this builder mistake.

The other one, which personally affects me, is that ice-dams develop above many of our front doors. The units are 2 story, so it's impossible to clean them off after every snowfall and it turns my front stoop into a ice slick. Shady spot + concrete + cold temps + dripping water from above = very dangerous!

I love my condo, but I may have chosen a different unit, or a different community, if I'd known what to look for.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
This is an example of why I would recommend an Association when they initially leave developer control have an inspection completed to insure everything is done proper and limit potential costs down the road. Because it has been 25-30 years I would imagine statute of limitations with regards to construction deficiencies have expired. However, you might check your state statutes and make sure ...

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Rob,

A lot of what you describe could happen on any property. It wouldn't matter if it were a CID or just a tract of homes being sold off.

It doesn't excuse the Builder, the Architect or the City/County inspectors who approved the plans and signed off on each phase of the building process.
RobW (California)
Posts: 279
Posted:
Great advice, Janet! Unfortunately, such an inspection can only pick up the obvious code violations. Actual water intrusion damage (which, by the way, constitutes the basis of a major percentage of HOA vs Developer lawsuits in California) can only be verified by destructive testing. Specifically: drilling numerous, fairly large holes in order to test the moisture content behind the outer shell of the envelope.

Rob

RobW (California)
Posts: 279
Posted:
Tim:

Absolutely agree! It's ironic, don't you think, that so many people buy into these associations, thinking somebody else will deal with these problems, in exchange for a monthly association fee?

Rob
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
In many cases that is true Rob, but it may have caught that the siding was installed improperly and avoided the potential future water damage. So sorry about your situation ... best of luck!!!
RobW (California)
Posts: 279
Posted:
You folks will not believe what happened at last night's Board meeting here. I'll start a new thread about it, since it has to do with a new subject: a petition to recall our president, who happens to be my wife.

Rob

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