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FelixR
Posts: 18
Posted:
My FL community is having our annual election next month and three out of five directors are up for election. The deadline for filing as a candidate was a week before Christmas. No one filed, so the election will be by write-in only. A small faction, led by one of the current directors, is orchestrating a write-in campaign for three candidates who they support and plan on coming to the annual meeting with enough write in votes to get them elected. The problem is that they won't even reveal who their candidates are and there are a lot of residents who have no idea who's even running for office, so they can't really vote effectively if at all.

Is this in violation of any HOA laws or is it just morally corrupt, for lack of a better term?
JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
Felix:

It sounds to me like those members are working the sytem to their advantage.

I would doubt there would be any laws or regulations to prevent this sort of behavior.

Sounds like they have a plan to work within the system to get the outcome they want.

Is this good for your property perhaps the owners should make a note and remember in the next election cycle.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
How can a "small faction" get enough write in votes to make a difference?

Are you saying they will be carrying proxies?

Look at your numbers and figure out if they can really do what you claim they plan.

FelixR
Posts: 18
Posted:
They can really get enough votes. We looked into it and it's entirely possible that they'll get away with it based on the size of the quorum. It's a community where single family homes and condos have a different number of votes and all they'll need is about 27 homeowners to vote and we'll have our quorum.

Quote:
Posted By SusanW1 on 01/12/2011 2:48 PM
How can a "small faction" get enough write in votes to make a difference?

Are you saying they will be carrying proxies?

Look at your numbers and figure out if they can really do what you claim they plan.


JonD1
Posts: 2,350
Posted:
So lets see if the three current Board members are running against no other declared candidates then if this group can produce more votes for their candidates as a group they might pull this off.

If no other candidates are actively working to secure wirte-in votes for themselves or others it would seem their votes would need to go for one of the current Board members or WHO? Pick a name?

If the owners wish to have their own candidates they would need to find them and start their own campaign. Simply questioning their actions will not prevent it from happening.

And group of three candidates each supporting the other would seem to have a numerical advantage to opposition with no declared list of candidates.

FelixR
Posts: 18
Posted:
It's not actually three current board members running. Three of them are up for election but have decided to not run again, so it's three people who haven't been on the board who are running. I think. Since no one has made any move to let most people in the community know who they are, I can only go by the rumors I hear. No one except people in on the scheme know who to write in on their ballots. It's the freakiest thing I've ever experienced in years of HOA wars.
FelixR
Posts: 18
Posted:
One of our mysteries has been solved. The wife of a current board member is running for office.

With the election three weeks away most of the community still has no idea who's running. Only a few homes who they perceive to be positive toward them have been approached and anyone perceived to be a potential vote against them is being deliberately kept in the dark.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Will nominations from the floor be accepted?

Are these return-mail ballots, where people were allowed to write in their candidate? how is it that it can even be called a "ballot"?

Check your bylaws and see if there is the board obligation (duty) to provide a "slate" for the election. In many cases, the Nominating Commmittee is a standing committee of the board and has the job of finding willing candidates.

Sounds weird - the election is being kept in the dark. Members cannot see the candidates.

Call a Point of Order and demand the board produce a slate of nominess for all members to see.
Write-ins are usually rare, anyway.

RobW (California)
Posts: 279
Posted:
You folks have a serious problem, Felix. The majority of your Board is going to be gone next month, and no one seemed to care enough to step up to the plate to take their places by the deadline.

Now your association is faced with the prospect of no longer having the ability to conduct business, because with only two Board members, you don't have enough for a quorum. Without a quorum the Board can't vote on any motions. Your HOA is on the verge of collapse, and there are no candidates for the upcoming election.

Let me state again: There are no candidates for the three, soon-to-be-vacant Board positions. Everyone in your association gave up the right to have their names placed on the ballot, and if there are no other ballot items, I believe ballots are now out. A rumored write-in campaign does not an election make, and people who others will write in are not candidates. They are merely rumors.

I've read your state's statues on elections, and I'm not an attorney, so take what I'm saying with a pound of salt.

Your association apparently has a December 4th deadline for nominations, but your statutes don't have any such deadline that I can find. To the contrary, your statute 720.306 states:

(9) ELECTIONS.--Elections of directors must be conducted in accordance with the procedures set forth in the governing documents of the association. All members of the association shall be eligible to serve on the board of directors, and a member may nominate himself or herself as a candidate for the board at a meeting where the election is to be held. Except as otherwise provided in the governing documents, boards of directors must be elected by a plurality of the votes cast by eligible voters. Any election dispute between a member and an association must be submitted to mandatory binding arbitration with the division. Such proceedings shall be conducted in the manner provided by s. 718.1255 and the procedural rules adopted by the division.

I don't know what you're governing documents say about this situation, but ordinarily, state law prevails where association documents fail, or are silent. If I'm right, any member may attend the annual meeting and nominate himself or herself for any of the seats, but you will still need a quorum of the homeowners to attend the meeting, as defined by your associations governing documents. If you don't get a quorum, the meeting can't start (at least that's how it is in California). if you do have a quorum of the membership attending the annual meeting, then the meeting starts, people can nominate themselves, and a vote can be taken, right then and there. No write-ins are necessary.

Does anyone see any flaw in my thinking?

This is a tough one.

Rob

JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Rob ... your thinking seems pretty good to me with regards to the statute.

Without seeing what is writen in the governing documents with regards to elections ... I think Rob is on the right track here. I would canvas your HOA and get most all homeowners to the election meeting because it will be important to obtain a quorum. Have a copy of the statute Rob just mentioned along with the information in your governing documents with you at the meeting to reference as needed.

Also, start your own campaigning for individuals whom you feel are qualified for the positions and who may be interested in serving.
FelixR
Posts: 18
Posted:
Rob- no one filed to run for the board so we'll be accepting write-ins and floor nominations, but no one wanting to be on the board is willing to reveal themselves. One board member suggested that we have a candidates night but she was told in no uncertain terms that this was unacceptable. The people wanting to be on the board plan on showing up with proxy ballots on the night of the election - or so I'm told - ensuring their victory.

I'm so disgusted with the shenanigans around here that I'm thinking of moving.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Felix …don’t get disgusted yet, they must be revealed at the meeting just like anyone else who also is nominated or wants to nominate themselves.

You and anyone else can also show up with proxy ballots … no matter who brings proxy ballots it does not 100% ensure a victory. Your HOA will not only be dealing with proxy ballots, but also ballots from all other homeowners who participate at the meeting.

Nothing at this time is etched in stone with victory declared. See if there are some who are willing to be nominated and run for the position that everyone in the HOA really would like to have on the board. Then do your own campaigning …

RobW (California)
Posts: 279
Posted:
I must second Janet, Felix: Look at it as an opportunity. Get 20 of your friends and neighbors to come to the meeting and vote for you, and you might win! Then at least you will know you can trust at least one of the Board members. (-:

Rob
FelixR
Posts: 18
Posted:
Unfortunately I can't run for office. I don't own the home I live in, just rent it and only homeowners can hold office. And quite honestly, from what I've seen in my two years here I'd never buy a home in a community with such a dysfunctional HOA. It's not something that home buyers usually consider but living here has taught me an invaluable lesson.
FelixR
Posts: 18
Posted:
Janet: I hope you're right. I'll let you know what happens in about three weeks.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Felix - I agree with Rob. There is NO ballot, there is only a live election.

The Board had a duty to find a slate of candidates to present to the Members.

It failed to do that.

Now you have an organized "write-in" campaign meant to place people in office.

This all stinks.

JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Felix ... does the owner of the home you rent plan on attending the meeting or will he allow you to be his proxy for casting his vote?
FelixR
Posts: 18
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JanetB2 on 01/21/2011 9:42 AM
Felix ... does the owner of the home you rent plan on attending the meeting or will he allow you to be his proxy for casting his vote?

I'm sure she'll be voting by proxy, since she lives in Switzerland, but I'm not comfortable asking her if I can be her proxy. However, I can email her and tell her what's going on because I don't think she has any idea. Thanks for the suggestion.

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