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RobertR2 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
I am on the board of directors for Lakehurst HOA in Central Florida. The builder of this 83 home gated community did not put in a boat ramp or boat slips even though the community is on a lake. There are only 11 homes directly on the lake. The remainder of the homes has lake access but no boat ramp or boat slips. The 11 homes on the lake do not want anyone to be able to launch or park a boat on the lake. The lake is a public lake.

A committee separate from the HOA board was formed and a special vote was taken to approve funds for boat slips. (We already have enough funds ($61,000) in the bank to cover this project and several other projects so no special assessment is needed) We gave the proper 10 day notice, had a quorum of over 30% of the community. The voters signed in and had a brief open forum for discussion. The community cast their votes and proxies. The vote was a small majority in favor of the boat slips. The loosing side now says the vote was illegal because the community was not given enough information.

The HOA board created a boat slip category on the budget and set aside the requested funds of $35,000 as directed by the community vote. Half of the board says the money in this account can be used for anything and the other half says the funds are reserved for the boat slips period. The loosing side is now trying to "Tie-Up" the money by threatening to sue the board as a whole and each member of the board.

Does anyone know where I can go to find cases similar to this and to find out what we do next? Your feed back is deeply appreciated because we are not experienced enough to know what to do next. What does the law say about special votes and what other legal things do we need to think about? Is there a book on cases similar to this or a book on special meetings we can buy? We know we can hire an attorney for legal advice but we would like to resolve this with out spending the community’s money on legal fees. Please help. Thanks again

P.S. We have tried to get the community to suggest capital improvement projects but the boat slip project was the only capital improvement project presented to the board.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Robert, did the association provide enough information? Did the Board make an unbiased and conscientous effort to educate all owners on the pros and cons of the proposal? In the "brief" discussion were the owners opposed given sufficient time to present their case? If the answer is yes then why are they upset that they lost?

I would suggest the Board offer to sit down with their leaders to try to resolve this. From what you posted I think the Board currently has the obligation to proceed with the project. I would check with the HOA insurance agent first to confirm coverage
SidneyP (Florida)
Posts: 302
Posted:
Posted By RobertR2 on 11/14/2006 9:18 AM

The lake is a public lake.

I don't understand, you say the lake in public. Then how can your community build a dock and pier on public property. Are you saying this is common area belonging to the community or can outsiders also use this lake????
RobertR2 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:


Roger, Thank you for your reply. I don't know if the community was given enough information or time to voice their opposition or if they could ever be given enough time or information. Something that is perfectly clear to some may not be clear at all to others. The board was petitioned by the committee and our management company sent out the notices for a special meeting.

The special meeting vote ballet basically said the boat ramp/slip committee wants to direct the board of directors to set aside funds up to $35,000 to peruse building boat slips. The open forum was open for about an hour and 20 minutes. Some of the people who attended made comments such as "we want our association dues money back" while others tried to disrupt the meeting and others said the meeting was "illegal". After and hour and 20 minutes it was obvious that the people against the project were upset and the forum was getting no where. And then the committee called for a vote and the vote was taken.. Most of the people who spoke were against the ramp/slips. I think everyone involved could have done a better job but the vote was taken anyway and now here we are.

Did the Board make an unbiased and conscientious effort to educate all owners on the pros and cons of the proposal? The board is divided on the issue and the board did not get involved directly until after the vote when we were trying to decide what to do about the vote. The board did not direct the committee to do anything and one reason was we didn't want this to be a board issue we wanted it to be a community issue where the people of the community made the decision. Were we wrong by doing that? The community has been divided on this issue for over 5 years and this is the first time it ever got this far. Most people in the past committees just quit the committee or board when confronted by the lake front owner’s threat to sue.

The board tried to set down to talk about the issue but it turned into a shouting match and no one knew what the law requires us to do.

The people who are upset say they are upset because the community was not given enough information, the rules for the boat slips have not been developed and because they don't want boat slips. However, last year when the board asked for capital improvement projects no one offered any projects other than the boat slip committee. The boat ramp committee extended an offer for anyone opposed to the project to join the committee and no one against the project joined. Now the people against the slips want the board to appoint a committee to see if the vote that was held is legal. I don't think the board should appoint a committee because we didn't appoint the boat slip committee. Thanks
RobertR2 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
As I understand anyone can use the lake. The area where the slips will be access by our community is common area property owner by the association and its members.
TomS2 (Florida)
Posts: 4
Posted:
A non board member at a board meeting does not have the right to make a motion. A board member cannot act on the petition either. The entire board must have had ample time to review and, if necessary, consult with legal counsel. Also, it sounds like the petition is to set aside a properly notice special meeting. In essence you are using a petition to amend the voting process delineated in the bylaws without a vote of 2/3 of the membership. It can't be done.

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