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JayreC (Illinois)
Posts: 7
Posted:
I live in a new subdivision with 8 homes(7 owned & 1 rented) and one lot left. All 8 homes were completed and occupied in 2008. FYI, home that is rented is owned by the original builder. With one lot still available for sale, HOA was formed in SEPT of 2008. We elected one president and 2 officers which I am one of.

Other than the 3 of us, home owners do not give a hoot and they are all late on the monthly dues. In the meantime, we have been doing everything such dealing with insurance and maintenance. Also the developer is in a boat load of financial and legal troubles and haven't been paying the association fees on the rental home nor the empty lot that looks like a jungle.

How do we go about dissolving the HOA and having the city or the county take over so that we don't have to deal with these deadbeat homeowners and the shady developer?
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
You will need to check your documents and statutes to see what proper procedure is for such an action.

Statutes: http://www.associationtimes.com/stateInformation.htm
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
Janet is right.. first step, check your own documents.

then, you will need to get permission from the city/county/state, because they will have to take over the properties and management. You will likely need a plan for sale or transfer of any property and assets, and hope the government will agree. they likely will not.

if they do agree, and if you can transfer property/assets, get ready to pay even more money each year on your HOA dues, because you will still be responsible for maintaining everything, you will just have to pay the government extra money for them to do it.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Jay - what exactly would the county take over? roads? beach? entranceway?

With such a small community, i am having trouble imagining what costs you would have.

The unkept lot should be referred to the local municipality. Our township will come out and mow the lot and then charge you if your weeds get too high.

SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
that's unkempt.

wish we had an EDIT key.
JayreC (Illinois)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Common area lanscaping and insurance. We also have 2 rentention plot of land which needs regular mowing.

Everything else is each owner's responsibility.

Our current monthly is only $30 so it's a shame that we're having hard time collecting that.
JayreC (Illinois)
Posts: 7
Posted:
As for the documents, we have yet to receive anything like the declaration from the developer which he's been promising from day 1.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
You should be able to go to the county records and request copies of all your HOA documents. There will probably be a per page copy fee. These should include articles of incorporation, by-laws, and CCR's as applicable.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 388
Posted:
Jayre,

The BOD should contact the city/co to ask if they would be willing to take ownership of all the common areas. If they agree then you are home free. And, contrary to what Brian has said, unless they decide to set up a special taxing district for your community the members will not have to continue to pay assessments. The HOA can be dissolved and the members would only be left with the deed restrictions, which run with the land. That would mean that any violations would be enforced by the member(s) in small claims court -- or just not enforced. On the flip side, if the city/co says "no" they will not take ownership of the common areas then I would say dissolution is not an option. I doubt anything can be done with the water retention areas so it would be difficult, if not impossible, to sell those areas. And, the other common areas may also be impossible to sell if they only amount to an area near the entrance and some roadway areas.

The BOD needs to adopt a collection policy and stick to it. Late notices, including late fees, need to be mailed to each delinquent member including the developer for his 2 lots. If the delinquency is not cleared w/i 1 month then other steps need to be taken such as filing liens. The members need to know that they are obligated to pay the monthly assessment and there will be consequences to pay if they don't. As long as the board is lax in collecting the assessments the delinquency rate will only continue to rise. In time this will result in the necessity to increase the monthly assessment thus burdening even more the people who do pay.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Jay - maybe they will listen to a judge, because that's what will happen if the court takes over the corporation.

Then you all WILL pay!
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
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We also have 2 rentention plot of land which needs regular mowing.

The city will never take over your HOA. They will not be interested in paying city workers to mow your retention plot.

What will happen if your HOA fails ..... the court will appoint a lawyer(s) to run your HOA and you will be forced to pay him a salary. He will hire whoever he wants to mow your retention plot, insurance, etc. He might even hire the city to mow it. Think of what that will cost. Your dues will sky rocket and you will be begging to re-organize the association to bring costs back under control.

Have fun.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 388
Posted:
Jayre,

I suggest you check out the nonprofit corp statutes on dissolution. Just google "805 ILCS 105 then click on Article 12, dissolution. This will tell you exactly what needs to be done to dissolve the corp. To terminate the CCRs you need to read the applicable article of your CCRs. But, as I mentioned earlier, I doubt your HOA can be dissolved because I seriously doubt the city/co will agree to take title to your common areas and I strongly doubt you would be able to find a buyer for them.
JayreC (Illinois)
Posts: 7
Posted:
What do management companies normally charge to run a small HOA like us?
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
the cost will vary widely by area. We had a 40 unit HOA in Phoenix, with simple landscaping of the retention lots as the majority management item, and the costs quoted to us were between $1200 and $2500 per month, on top of budgeted expenses and fees.
JanetB2 (Colorado)
Posts: 4,219
Posted:
Jayre:

Brian is right this will vary and not an answer which can be obtained here as you will need to call around in your local area.

I do know that a neighboring HOA with 63 homes the cost is about $2,600 + misc. items such as postage. As a general rule if you divide this number by units it would equal roughly $41 per unit per year.

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