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BillT6 (Texas)
Posts: 4
Posted:
A private golf course/time share/resort within the HOA deeded employees and associates 5 lots just days before the close of the election applications. These new owners, suddenly, decided to run for the board of directors of the owners association. Money was already spent on behalf of the property owners in a legal battle to fight the private entity from taking over lots and converting them to commercial use.. Obviously there is blatant bribery occurring in order to take control of the board. Owners have been notified of who these people are and hopefully vote accordingly.

The question is what are the legal ramifications of the actions of the resort, if any? I know bribery and corruption are illegal for public servants but would it apply to this situation.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Bill,

Bribery and corruption is illegal no matter where it occurs -- in public governments or private corporations! What makes you think this is happening in this HOA?

Have you checked to see if TX has separate laws for timeshares, I know AZ does.
BillT6 (Texas)
Posts: 4
Posted:
From what I have gathered the only time these actions will become questionably illegal would be if the people who were bribed actually were elected then turned around and gave the property back to the individual in order for him to use for commercial purposes. So his actions up to this point are 100% legal, 100% ethical, no.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Bill,

Sure sounds like a lot of "ifs" to be claiming bribery, conflict of interest and whatever else!! Those claims should never be made unless, or until, you have sufficient proof to back up the claims.
BillT6 (Texas)
Posts: 4
Posted:
What are you even talking about? Bribery is commonplace in this world. Payola makes the world go round. The point here is bribery is happening in order for individuals to be elected to the HOA. The guy gives 7 people lots three days before they "decide" to run for office, after a legal battle about corporate interests using land for commercial purposes. Seems pretty clear cut. I'm not even sure you should be giving advice if you can't understand these simple concepts. Sorry, but I would appreciate some knowledgeable advice.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Bill,

Sorry to have overstepped my intelligence by offering my opinion! But my opinion stands -- you have not offered any proof of bribery. You only "think" you know why the lots changed ownership before the meeting. The "appearance" of bribery or any other type of shady dealing is not proof that is what happened.

BTW, if you want "knowledgeable advice" I suggest you contact a lawyer. We only offer opinions here; we are not lawyers. You get what you pay for!
BillT6 (Texas)
Posts: 4
Posted:
All I can tell you is that one must first be charged with bribery in order to be proven guilty of bribery. You, like many others in this country have no clue what the legal system entails. You act as if a person should be found guilty before they are charged in a crime. The fact that the land was deeded and they all registered to run in the election three days later is fact. The question is not if its bribery buy definition but rather if its criminal bribery and a chargeable offense. Regardless, I have my answer, thanks for trying. After all, I was trying to get an answer from someone with legal experience.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Guess you neglected to read this:

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