President Using Clubhouse for FREE now..??

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NoelleC2 (California)
Posts: 47

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Hello,

I posted this question a couple of days ago. It was about how the clubhouse is being utilized buy our President of the HOA and some of her friends free of charge.

Tonight? I walked past with her and her neighbor watching tv..... in the clubhouse in plan view. I can bet you she didn't pay the $50 rental fee.

I already wrote a letter to the HOA in regard to this, awaiting a response.

Is this something that should be brought up in open session? It appears as though those with a set of keys to the clubhouse get to use it for personal use... free of charge to entertain whenever..

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491

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Yes absolutely, bring it up in open session before you have all of the facts, you won't look petty and vindictive at all. How do you know she didn't rent it? How do you know it wasn't open to the general membership? While we also rent the clubhouse out, the Board opens it (unless it is rented) once a week or so so members can hang out, watch TV, play cards or chat. You know stuff the clubhouse was designed to do.
I know you're PO'ed because someone supposedly got to use the clubhouse for free while you were turned down. Get your facts first before you throw a fit.

FACTS: Written response from the Board or other proof that it was a clear cut violation of the CC&R's not something you heard or think you know.

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NoelleC2 (California)
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Posted By GlenL on 09/20/2010 8:54 PM
Yes absolutely, bring it up in open session before you have all of the facts, you won't look petty and vindictive at all. How do you know she didn't rent it? How do you know it wasn't open to the general membership? While we also rent the clubhouse out, the Board opens it (unless it is rented) once a week or so so members can hang out, watch TV, play cards or chat. You know stuff the clubhouse was designed to do.
I know you're PO'ed because someone supposedly got to use the clubhouse for free while you were turned down. Get your facts first before you throw a fit.

FACTS: Written response from the Board or other proof that it was a clear cut violation of the CC&R's not something you heard or think you know.

Sarcasm not needed. I do know for fact that the room was being utilized for a "get together" by our Prez... and that it wasn't rented. In accordance to our social calander, and the social committee, it WAS NOT rented tonight. I already looked into that.

I do not appreciate being belittled Glen.. I am so sorry I DONT" KNOW it all like you do.. thank you. Pleasant night.

GlenL (Ohio)
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Noelle, what do you want then? You've made a complaint to the Board, if they ignore it or brush it off then the next step would be to sue them over it. That or work to get the Board replaced.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions

NoelleC2 (California)
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Posted By GlenL on 09/20/2010 9:07 PM
Noelle, what do you want then? You've made a complaint to the Board, if they ignore it or brush it off then the next step would be to sue them over it. That or work to get the Board replaced.

I was looking for some ideas on action. Not belittlement from a know it all..... come on Glen.. get over it. I don't know everything and I don't need some half wit sarcastic response..... NOT EVERYONE KNOW EVERYTHING LIKE YOU DO A**

NoelleC2 (California)
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GlenL (Ohio)
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Posted By NoelleC2 on 09/20/2010 9:10 PM

If only I knew everything. I was not being sarcastic, I was stating facts as you presented in your posts and offering you options.

You can complain to the Board or you can sue. It's not a violation of the law that I know of (see I don't know everything) so the police won't get involved. So if the Board won't do anything then you can either accept their decision or work to replace them with someone who will enforce. In CA you could sue for the rental fee in small claims court but the money if awarded would probably go to the HOA not you. Yes you can get up in an open meeting and complain about it but I still say you will come off as petty and vindictive.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions

SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
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Tonight? I walked past with her and her neighbor watching tv..... in the clubhouse in plan view. I can bet you she didn't pay the $50 rental fee.

It amazes me how many HOA's dont want their members using the clubhouse unless they pay huge fees to rent it. Kinda sad, but that's reality.

NoelleC2 (California)
Posts: 47

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I agree too. The thing is, the common membership does not have free access to this room..unless it's rented. but the Prez and other board members are hosting personal events, and loaning the room depending on the person... for free, no rental agreement or fees paid.

It's not used as planned to as sure. We will see what happemns.

SureshD
Posts: 268

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So if the Club House (CH) is NOT reserved/rented for an evening or other period of time you can't go in there with guests and do... what ever there is to do in there?

Maybe that's all it is.

Regardless you need to spend time obtaining the documentation to prove your suspicions as opposed to finding an answer here. If you can prove anything then seek answers in a BOD meeting.

If you CAN'T... then drop it and move on!

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