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BrandonL1 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Hi all,

I live in a rural community of about 25 parcels, 10 are vacant lots and the remaining have been built on. I was wondering what process one has to go through to start a voluntary HOA? Current zoning allows for homes and mobile homes over 750 SF, however, a few neighbors were pondering the idea if a voluntary HOA, if organized, could restrict mobile homes from being put in the neighborhood as there is the fear of declining property values. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Brandon,

I believe what you are thinking about would be called a neighborhood association. Uusually these org are volunteer and meet to discuss issues w/i the community such as the zoning issue you are concerned about. A homeowner's assn, whether voluntary or mandatory would only be concerned with issues w/i the confines of the s/d. BTW, even if there is a neighborhood assn that doesn't mean you would be able to automatically restrict mobile homes however you would have an organization behind you in your lobbying efforts against mobile homes in the community.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
If it was formed, you could only restrict mobile homes on those members who voluntary joined the Association. This is because, as I understand it, an Association is actually a contract among homeowners to agree to certain things and they form an Association to manage/enforce the contract.

In a mandatory Association, everyone becomes a party to the contract when they purchase the home. In a voluntary Association, a homeowner can chose to agree to enter into the contract or not. If they don't enter into it, then they don't have to follow the rules/guidelines associated with it. Worse, if the Association is voluntary, members may be able to quit being a party of the contract if they so choose.
BB5 (Missouri)
Posts: 145
Posted:
I took our by-laws to an attorney (HOA) was trying to force people to pay for blacktop of the road. I found that this is a "voluntary association" the purpose of which was to MAINTAIN the water system, dusk to dawn lights,trash and road nothing allows for anything beyond MAINTENANCE he compared it to a contract people entered into and cannot be changed.
BrandonL1 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Thanks for the replies all. I'm guessing in my particular situation there is nothing one can do but hope that no one comes in and puts a mobile home on the remaining vacant lots.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Brandon,

Do you have deed restrictions (CCRs) on your property and are you in a subdivision? If so, you should thoroughly check them out to see if mobile homes are prohibited. If this is the case and mobile homes are prohibited you don't need an HOA to enforce the restriction. Each property owner may enforce the CCRs through small claims (justice) court. But, if you live in a rural area and there is no subdivision with deed restrictions to prohibit mobile homes,and the zoning allows mobile homes, then there is nothing you can do about it.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
BB5,

If this is a voluntary assn then only those property owners who have joined the assn can be levied an assessment to pay for the road or any other maint project. BTW, blacktopping a road is considered maint.

The "contract people entered into and cannot be changed" that the attorney referred to are the deed restrictions (CCRs) attached to all the properties whether the prop owner chose to join the HOA or not. Those property owners who chose not to join the HOA are still subject to adhering to the deed restrictions but they are not liable for any maint costs for the road,lights, etc.
BB5 (Missouri)
Posts: 145
Posted:
According to my attorney blacktop of a gravel road is not maintenance.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
BB5,

I agree; it's a capital improvement. BTW, you didn't say it was a gravel road in your first msg.

SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Quote:
a few neighbors were pondering the idea if a voluntary HOA, if organized, could restrict mobile homes


That doesn't make any sense. If its a voluntary association, with a CCR of no mobile homes, I could just buy the property, tell the voluntary association I dont want to be a member any more and put in a mobile home. See my point?
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
If current zoning allows mobile homes and you already have some (over 750 sq. ft.) then how do you think you can now work to go against zoning?

Did I read something wrong?
BrandonL1 (Florida)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By SusanW1 on 09/15/2010 1:24 PM
If current zoning allows mobile homes and you already have some (over 750 sq. ft.) then how do you think you can now work to go against zoning?

Did I read something wrong?

There are no mobile homes in the community right now - all are single family homes. Current zoning allows single family homes and mobile homes greater than 750SF.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Sorry - I mis-read your post.

But you will have to re-zone your parcel in an attempt to have a new zoning allowance.
Does your local municipality have zoning hearings?
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Brandon,
Don't confuse Covenants with a homeowner's association. They are two separate things. Are the 25 parcels defined within a specific area for which there are Covenants on file with the County? If so, anyone can legally enforce the restrictions in the Covenants. If mobile homes are restricted by the Covenants this can be legally enforced. The one of the functions of an HOA, voluntary or manditory, is to enforce the Covenants. A voluntary HOA can only enforce established restrictions but can not create the restrictions.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Steve,

There may be deed restrictios that apply to all the homes in the area. So if a person buys a lot that is subject to these deed restrictions, whether or not he chooses to join the HOA, he will be legally required to adhere to the deed restrictions.
SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 3,699
Posted:
Mary,
The poster never mentioned deed restrictions.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Yes, it is not clear whether this is anything more than a neighborhhod in a community, governed by muncipal zoning laws. He does not mention CCRs.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
i asked him those questions but he has not responded.

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